BANG......BANG......BANG...... GOES MY HEAD ON THE DESK

http://www.etsy.com/forums_thread.php?thread_id=6413464&page=1

I finally ventured out of the same thread I've been in for 2 days straight, to be assaulted by this ignorant post.  Where the hell do I start.

Since when did forking over .20 to renew constitute 'hard work'?  Since when is renewing any measure of how hard anyone works on their business?

All renewing for visibility shows is how people 'game the system', a flawed system, I might add.

You might take a clue from your own words:

"If people here are saying the relevant search is no good, instead of opposing their view, think about why they say that. Are they whining and complaining? No! They are upset that all their hard and honest work is now being pushed aside and lost in a severely flawed system."

If people here are saying the most recently listed search is no good, instead of opposing their view, think about why they say that.  Are they whining and complaining?  No!  They are upset that all their hand and honest work is being pushed aside and lost in a severely flawed system,

See?  It works both ways.

"I really think it's great that many have succeeded here on Etsy, but they did not get there by sitting around waiting for Etsy to hand them the sales. They worked for them and they worked hard! They got out there and did what ever they needed to to get to where they are and where they want to be. And now a search system comes along that makes all their hard work here on Etsy disappear under pages of sellers that break TOUs and stuff titles etc...I really think it's great that many have succeeded here on Etsy, but they did not get there by sitting around waiting for Etsy to hand them the sales. They worked for them and they worked hard! They got out there and did what ever they needed to to get to where they are and where they want to be. And now a search system comes along that makes all their hard work here on Etsy disappear under pages of sellers that break TOUs and stuff titles etc..."

Um...ok, so you are saying because a seller refuses to jump on the renewing bandwagon.and or because they support a relevant search tool they are just sitting around waiting for Etsy to hand them sales?  You didn't really say that did you?  Cause, that's a helluvan assumption to make.  I will add that breaking the rules is not ok for anyone to do, and I am of the opinion that this will be addressed as the relevant search is fleshed out and improved.  As it is, people are breaking the rules in an effort to be seen under the current search, so I really don't see this as a valid reason to scrap relevancy.

"But reality is, if you want to run a business you need to invest in it and work at it yourself without taking shortcuts!"

Ok, now that I have finished laughing at this sentence, I might point out the rather obvious fact that renewing to be seen is a shortcut in itself.  It's an easy loophole that has been exploited and made to appear legitimate because it was easy for Etsy for a time, and also generated revenue for them.  The fact is that Etsy let it go on for so long, to the point where it is only beneficial to a handful of sellers who are able to renew on a constant basis, and now those who have benefitted from it are scared of losing that edge.  Maybe when it gets to the point where 160,000 sellers start renewing their hundreds of thousands of items daily (in addition to the newly listed and relisted products) and sellers are consistently finding themselves on page 10 or more immediately after renewing they'll realize what a leaky boat they've set sail on.